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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 10:06:38 GMT
I didn't say that I don't know who Damian Lewis is, I said that I didn't know how famous he was. There is a difference, it's not like every appreciated actor is famous. MrBunbury yes Yes and I was not directing my post personally towards you either! Apologies if this is how it came across But there was a general "flavour" in this thread that as this production does not star a BBC soap opera star that is it somehow less worthy and that the tickets prices are not justified and that really annoyed me This is a very different discussion and I do not wish to digress too much But if David Tennant had starred in this, would it become more objectively worthy and become worth £115 per ticket? I think not! I agree that not every appreciated actor is famous and public perception is quite a different matter and varies on context... People flocked to the Palladium Panto As the average person in the street probably considered that cast to be very starry Although they are well known and get much media coverage One could argue most of them lack credibility And now they are discounting Amanda Holden in a much smaller venue! So there are many factors at play re: cast, the actual show, setting, venue etc. Obviously the producers think the cast have considerable acting talent- but perhaps they have misjudged the "star" value of the leads and the show will be a flop on this basis.... Although Lewis has won an Emmy and Golden Globe, he does not seek media attention in the way that many lesser British actors do and perhaps now we see that this has been to his detriment particularly in relation to commercial theatre and his public profile As I also mentioned Sophie Okonedo has several internationally recognised awards or nominations under her belt for the small screen, as well as film work She won best actress at the RTS only last week (where ironically Ant and Dec also picked up an award!) I am not saying these are are definitive marker of success- but surely they at least act as a pointer that these are serious actors well respected by the theatre and film industry and there is an assumption that this translates, at least in part, to public awareness Perhaps what we are really saying, is that in the mainstream WE talent is not enough and perhaps if Ant and Dec starred in this play it would be playing to packed houses happy to pay £200 a time... Who knows! I wonder if the Times has misjudged also given their headline for the interview being "The hottest couple in the West End" www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-was-so-affected-by-the-part-it-left-a-little-cloud-over-me-mp2n3flk6
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Post by bellboard27 on Mar 27, 2017 21:07:18 GMT
Well that's one hell of an odd play. Some good laughs in act 2 but overall not one I'll probably see again. Performances not bad and will bed in.
Note that TRH website says 90 mins no interval. At theatre sign says 1h 50 mins no interval. Tonight it ran for 1h 55.
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Post by callum on Mar 27, 2017 21:12:21 GMT
When a play is 1h55 I think it needs an interval.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Mar 27, 2017 22:05:36 GMT
Time flew by for me tonight. What a thought-provoking piece. Feels very strong to me already. I was not at all prepared for Sophie Okonedo's final entrance. Given everything that had come before it, I found it utterly shocking and horrifyingly moving. Lots of laughter - most justified, but some people seemed to find too much near the end funny. Yes, it's loaded with deliciously dark humour but I'll remember this as being like a Greek tragedy. Loved it.
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Post by lonlad on Mar 28, 2017 7:31:16 GMT
Definitely a Greek tragedy, the word tragedy having itself meant "goat song" in ancient Greek. Bill Pullman's performance on Bway in the original one of the greatest I have ever seen. Fingers cautiously crossed for this one.
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Post by Boob on Mar 28, 2017 14:46:46 GMT
Excellently put, Spicey.
In the crazy world of TV, we actually have research-based audience appreciation charts for actors. So, for example, you know that if you put X in Y, you have a bit of draw. And that often has very little to do with talent.
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Post by duncan on Mar 28, 2017 15:41:22 GMT
This forum is for everyone with any kind of interest in theatre, even just a passing one. No qualifications are needed, no-one "needs to broaden their horizons". @parsley 's comments just show how pretentious some theatre fans can be. Knowledge is often confused with pretension Particularly by those who don't know There is a subtle difference Acting like a Tw*t is acting like a Tw*t.
There is no difference.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 28, 2017 15:41:30 GMT
The prices for this are high aren't they? Have to give it a miss.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 17:10:14 GMT
Knowledge is often confused with pretension Particularly by those who don't know There is a subtle difference Acting like a Tw*t is acting like a Tw*t.
There is no difference.
Coming from the expert
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Post by lynette on Mar 28, 2017 17:52:32 GMT
Play nice boys
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Post by MrBunbury on Mar 29, 2017 10:40:34 GMT
I saw it yesterday and I must admit that it left me rather cold. Sophie Okonedo is great and the real star of the show, but overall I was a bit disappointed by the play. It did not help that the usher was chatting up a woman just outside the gallery during the performance...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 22:04:29 GMT
Five stars from Biddy
Such weird arse licking patterns
I wonder what goes on in his head?
3 stars from the Telegraph
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Post by lonlad on Apr 5, 2017 22:42:39 GMT
Why is it that Damian Lewis can do American accents very well on TV and film, as we know, but has no clue onstage - first as Teach in AMERICAN BUFFALO and now in this, in which he speaks in a pinched, nasal stage whisper that only drops when the character gets angry. Thank God for Sophie Okonedo, who is terrific, but none of the men in her orbit give her much to work with. And the PJ Harvey music has got to go.
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Post by stefy69 on Apr 6, 2017 7:00:08 GMT
Mixed reviews in this morning's papers for this the highlight : 5 stars from The Guardian.
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Post by lynette on Apr 6, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
If you are working in film presumably you can repeat a scene or a sentence and maybe the voice coach is there or on end of phone. Just saying.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 6, 2017 20:12:20 GMT
There are a whole range of different American accents - actors can be better at doing some of them than others.
(And sometimes audiences think an accent is being done badly/well when it's actually not, because it's an accent they're not familiar with.)
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Post by skullion on Apr 6, 2017 20:17:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:39:39 GMT
Ouch. Good on him for 'the show must go on'! But given the prices, I'll wait til later in the run to book, in the hopes the cast lurgy passes and does not return...
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Post by bamaboy on Apr 7, 2017 3:23:18 GMT
I'm coming to visit, and I think I want to see this. I love Albee, and I've never seen this show. When the seats are partial view, how is the view? I mean, it's listed partial view, but the seat right next to is full view, so what's the deal?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:22:08 GMT
Hi I also have a question - does anyone know how popular this is at dayseats? Me and a bud are mincing it on weds with (lotteries permitting) a double show day and would love to get cheap tix for this (I hear it's £5 for a day Seat? Can this be right? Is it the front row?) but can't get to theatre until 11.20am earliest. Does anyone know if there might still be some? Or if the box office give out cheap tickets if u give them a bit of twinkle?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:36:10 GMT
Hi I also have a question - does anyone know how popular this is at dayseats? Me and a bud are mincing it on weds with (lotteries permitting) a double show day and would love to get cheap tix for this (I hear it's £5 for a day Seat? Can this be right? Is it the front row?) but can't get to theatre until 11.20am earliest. Does anyone know if there might still be some? Or if the box office give out cheap tickets if u give them a bit of twinkle? Yup, they're £5. I guess the stage is very high so the view will be pretty restricted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 10:06:53 GMT
Hi I also have a question - does anyone know how popular this is at dayseats? Me and a bud are mincing it on weds with (lotteries permitting) a double show day and would love to get cheap tix for this (I hear it's £5 for a day Seat? Can this be right? Is it the front row?) but can't get to theatre until 11.20am earliest. Does anyone know if there might still be some? Or if the box office give out cheap tickets if u give them a bit of twinkle? Yup, they're £5. I guess the stage is very high so the view will be pretty restricted. They don't call me Mrs Giraffe McGiraffeneck for nothing.
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Post by zahidf on Apr 7, 2017 10:11:53 GMT
Only 8 tickets per performance for the day seats. I turned up at 10.05 yesterday and they had all gone
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 12:19:55 GMT
Time to bring on the twinkle then, Mrs L. We know you can do it! :-)
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Post by joem on Apr 11, 2017 21:12:44 GMT
Utter rubbish. Not the production, although why this should be given such a high-profile revival beats me, but the play is neither fish nor fowl. I pity the actors who have very little meat to get hold of here.
Tragedy? Comedy? Who cares! It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 11, 2017 21:47:24 GMT
A colleague at work said at the weekend she had visited a city farm, reporting that she ended up spending quite a bit of time looking into a goat's eyes. I found it hard to refrain from asking if anything further had happened!
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 12, 2017 19:06:12 GMT
Why so gruff? What got your
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2017 16:08:24 GMT
Talk about a dark comedy! This was brilliant with two great central performances.
This has some really uncomfortable laugh out loud moments. I wasn't quite sure what to expect, but was very impressed!
Great production! Definitely one to see
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 12:20:23 GMT
Does Sophie Okonedo come out at Stage Door?
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Post by loureviews on Apr 22, 2017 17:01:58 GMT
That was very good indeed, especially Sophie Okonedo. Understudy on for Ross this afternoon.
Damian Lewis' accent is all over the place but he was absolutely fine, as was Archie Madekwe as the conflicted son (called Billy, which is ironic given the theme of this pitch black comedy).
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