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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 22:09:50 GMT
Now why couldn't they have given the theatre Royal Drury Lane the factory treatment?
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Post by firefingers on Jan 7, 2017 23:49:34 GMT
Now why couldn't they have given the theatre Royal Drury Lane the factory treatment? Listed building, init. Andy got his arse handed to him when he painted the Adelphi black for Love Never Dies so he knows not to mess with his theatres' exteriors.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 2:55:29 GMT
No idea what this thing is, but it looks cool. http://instagram.com/p/BRENMeQgkON Not long now until it opens! REALLY curious now how this will differ to the West End. Hopefully for the better.
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Post by cheesy116 on Mar 6, 2017 22:37:27 GMT
I have been keeping an eye on this production during rehearsals, by looking at various social medias. As we know, the kids other than Charlie are played by adults but I have now seen pictures of all the 'kid' characters and 2 of them are taller than the actors/actresses playing their parents I hope they've thought of an excuse because that will look completely wrong.
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 10, 2017 16:57:10 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 10, 2017 17:45:18 GMT
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Post by Jon on Mar 10, 2017 21:35:21 GMT
I assume he's going to wearing a wig that in the Wilder vein
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 0:51:29 GMT
Good move - if it tanks, they can revert to "The King and I" overnight. Or "Annie"!
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 14, 2017 23:35:48 GMT
Thank goodness they are putting Candy Man for the start of the show and I've Got a Golden Ticket into the show. Sad Cheer Up Charlie never made it. The set is completely different too. Exciting what they will do with it, the adults playing the kids seems to work! As its a completely different production they really should have designed new artwork and logo in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 19:45:10 GMT
First preview on Broadway tonight! But looks like there was an invited dress rehearsal last night. Here's the new pre-show curtain on someone's instagram. Guess it's a tiny improvement from plain black at Drury Lane! http://instagram.com/p/BSMVje0lLtl
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 12:45:49 GMT
http://instagr.am/p/BSNQEzlgv0b Urgh. Dont like. I really like the framing of the stage/set on the London production. This Clouds thing looks pants. Also its kinda cool to include 'The Candy Man' but curtain call material? Feels a bit lifeless to me.
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 29, 2017 13:35:54 GMT
Ewww look at that tiny factory in the background. Please don't tell me that's what they use throughout the show. The one thing the London production had going for it was it's design so it's a shame that they have changed it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 13:48:47 GMT
Ewww look at that tiny factory in the background. Please don't tell me that's what they use throughout the show. The one thing the London had going for it was it's design so it's a shame that they have changed it Agree. The design for the London production was brilliant, with the exception of the great glass anomaly. For me, the design really made the show. The scale and perspective of it really had a 'Dahl' feel to it. This looks overly Warner Brothers-ed.
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 29, 2017 13:56:11 GMT
The set is completely different and glad they have added new songs. The West End set has completely gone and changed. No one seems impressed from the people I know who even work on it. I don't see this as a long runner - no one seems to have got the show right yet.
The West End version looked great but was bad with many flaws (many music in my opinion), the new Broadway production looks cheap sadly but had solved some (but not all of the original issues) with the original piece.
I'm sorry but they should have just had the film onstage with some extra melodic songs to pad it out aka Mary Poppins style. I feel this show will evolve and one day it will become what it always should have been, recreating some of the magic of the film on stage.
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 29, 2017 14:10:07 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 14:50:18 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man Sounds gash. I really liked that interaction between Charlie and the 'Hobo' at the start of the show which turns around right at the end to reveal Wonka is that character. It adds to the suggestion that Wonka picked Charlie to win before he'd even entered the factory. I really liked the songs in the London show. I think the problem with this show is people will always compare it to the Gene Wilder movie. For me, the London production was a standalone piece, and if you view it as that you get more out of it. No-one sits there comparing the stage version of Matilda to the screen version, or the stage version of Phantom to the Lon Chaney movie and I think its wrong to do the same to Charlie. This NY production seems a bit of an insult to the original though. I do hope they tour the original through the UK, not this updated version.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 21:30:16 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man Sounds gash. I really liked that interaction between Charlie and the 'Hobo' at the start of the show which turns around right at the end to reveal Wonka is that character. It adds to the suggestion that Wonka picked Charlie to win before he'd even entered the factory. I really liked the songs in the London show. I think the problem with this show is people will always compare it to the Gene Wilder movie. For me, the London production was a standalone piece, and if you view it as that you get more out of it. No-one sits there comparing the stage version of Matilda to the screen version, or the stage version of Phantom to the Lon Chaney movie and I think its wrong to do the same to Charlie. This NY production seems a bit of an insult to the original though. I do hope they tour the original through the UK, not this updated version. I think the Broadway one will probably be the one they tour as it is probably scaled down a bit from Drury Lane. I personally wasn't a fan of having the hobo in at the beginning, to me it just seemed too obvious and cliched that it was Wonka. But I think people are comparing it to the Gene Wilder movie because it was already a musical, so they'd expect songs from that in the stage version, despite it technically being an adaptation of the BOOK rather than the FILM (after all, they are technically different titles!). I like most of the songs from the London version and don't think including "Candy Man" or the old Oompa Loompa songs would hurt too much, maybe even "Cheer Up Charlie" as I wasn't a huge fan of "If Your Mother Were Here". I actually now prefer "Don't Ya Pinch Me Charlie" more than "I've Got A Golden Ticket" which I think I read somewhere has been put in now.
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 30, 2017 0:33:16 GMT
Cheer up Charlie isn't in the Broadway show..
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Post by daniel on Mar 30, 2017 0:53:49 GMT
This is the version due to Tour the UK in a couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 2:57:45 GMT
Complete new song list, for those wanting it (copied exactly from the Playbill):
Act I 01. "The Candy Man" – Willy Wonka & Ensemble 02. "Willy Wonka! Willy Wonka!" – Charlie & Ensemble 03. "The Candy Man" – Charlie 04. "Tales of Wonka" – Grandpa Joe 05. "A Letter from Charlie Bucket" – Charlie, Mr. Bucket & The Grandparents 06. "More of Him to Love" - Augustus, Mrs. Gloop & Ensemble 07. "When Veruca Says" - Mr. Salt, Veruca 08. "The Queen of Pop" - Violet Beauregarde, Mr. Beauregarde & Ensemble 09. "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" - Mike Teavee, Mrs. Teave & Ensemble 10. "If Your Father Were Here" - Mrs. Bucket 11. "I’ve Got a Golden Ticket"/"Grandpa Joe" - Charlie Grandpa Joe, Mrs. Bucket & The Grandparents 12. "It Must Be Believed to Be Seen" - Willy Wonka & Ensemble Act II 13. "Strike That! Reverse It!" - Willy Wonka & The Golden Ticket Winners 14. "Pure Imagination"/"Grandpa Joe" (Reprise) - Willy Wonka, Charlie, Grandpa Joe & The Golden Ticket Winners 15. "The Oompa Loompa Song" – The Oompa Loompas 16. "Auf Wiedersehen Augustus Gloop" - Willy Wonka & The Oompa Loompas 17. "When Willy Met Oompa" - Willy Wonka & The Oompa-Loompas, 18. "Veruca's Nutcracker Sweet" – Veruca & The Oompa-Loompas 19. "Vidiots" – Willy Wonka, Mike, Mrs. Teavee & The Oompa-Loompas 20. "The View From Here" - Willy Wonka & Charlie 21. "Strike That! Reverse It!" (Charlie’s Reprise) – Charlie & The Company
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:50:20 GMT
This is the version due to Tour the UK in a couple of years. Is there a dislike button?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:57:24 GMT
10. "If Your Father Were Here" - Mrs. Bucket Thats interesting. I wonder why its changed from Mother to Father? If its simply Mother/Father verses switched round to suit characters on stage timing-wise or something deeper, socially implied. They've really butchered the original. Gutted 'Juicy' has been cut. I hope 'Tales of Wonka' is a rehash of 'The Amazing Fantastical History of..' because I loved that song. I wont be making a trip to see this, but I'd be interested to hear the new songs/replacements on a Broadway soundtrack release which I guess is likely. Edit: Apparently Charlie's father has been killed off, hence the change of song, answering my first question.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 8:31:01 GMT
Sorry for the Charlie spam, but I need to vent. This show is getting ripped apart on BW forum. And rightly so it seems. Veruca gets dismembered and her separate body parts are brought on stage by squirrels! Thought this was a family show!! Charlie's dad is dead, but somehow gets integrated into the show and his corpse has a dance sequence with Charlies mum. What?!
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Post by jgblunners on Mar 30, 2017 8:49:29 GMT
I seem to be among the minority who absolutely loved everything about the West End version and didn't think anything should be changed. I'm sad to see it's been so butchered as I thought it was a wonderful adaptation of the book, although I appreciate that many people were comparing it to the Gene Wilder film and feeling it didn't live up to it. I liked the subplot with the homeless person even if it was a bit obvious.
I thought the music in particular was brilliant, and I don't think it needed any more songs from the film as it was quite clearly meant to be an entirely different version. I see that they've moved 'pure imagination' away from the glass elevator scene and added a new song there. Bad move in my opinion - that song is magical and fits that scene perfectly.
By no means do I wish this bad luck on Broadway, but I think they should've stuck with the version that played here and if this indeed turns out to be the version that tours the UK, I think I'll give it a miss to preserve my happy memories of the original West End run.
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Post by Mark on Mar 30, 2017 8:53:52 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:01:00 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess. Its been a fun mourning* haha
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Post by Mark on Mar 30, 2017 9:09:53 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess. Its been a fun mourning* haha Why didn't I think of that! haha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:48:52 GMT
I'm not surpried they have gone so over the top on their views on BWW though. They are always arguing, being over the top. There is no middle ground with them, they eachother really love it or really hate it and snap at eachother alot anyway. We are alot more held back here compared to them on that board!
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 30, 2017 16:54:08 GMT
I'm not surpried they have gone so over the top on their views on BWW though. They are always arguing, being over the top. There is no middle ground with them, they eachother really love it or really hate it and snap at eachother alot anyway. We are alot more held back here compared to them on that board! Yes I've noticed this when looking for opinions on Groundhog Day. Some really scathing opinions on there but when you check social media it is a lot more positive
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:10:23 GMT
Doesn't surprise me at all that Broadway regulars aren't taking to Charlie and Groundhog Day to be honest. We'd probably be that harsh on them too if we got Come From Away, Dear Evan Hansen and Great Comet all in one season.
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