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Post by fiyero on Feb 8, 2024 8:39:32 GMT
By all means, take the show to New York to try it out over there, but it's an Off-Broadway show. Maybe even Off-Off-Broadway. If well received, they could think about scaling upwards further down the line. That’s the thing. I don’t know the New York scene well but somewhere like new world stages would have seemed a better fit! To UK fans Rob would have still done New York but more manageable surely?
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2024 9:44:24 GMT
Although I loved the show in London I have to say i was rather surprised when I read of the Broadway run. I was thrilled for Rob but did feel it was rather ambitious. As others have mentioned maybe an off Broadway short run and then transfer if it takes off, the same way it was done for their London shows. Hope they can sort something out and Rob gets the chance to perform in NY.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 8, 2024 10:24:39 GMT
If true this is so sad. But what on earth were they thinking taking this straight to Broadway? Absolute madness.
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Post by ladidah on Feb 8, 2024 11:40:25 GMT
That is awful. It should have been on off-broadway at a good price to attract it's audience.
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Post by bigredapple on Feb 8, 2024 12:10:26 GMT
Has it really been axed? Tickets still available online
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Post by theatrefan62 on Feb 8, 2024 12:13:16 GMT
Has it really been axed? Tickets still available online Multiple people on broadwayworld saying they heard same thing. And comments on reddit from ticket holders say they've been contacted saying its cancelled. So nothing official but odd to have an unsubstantiated rumour come from various sources
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Post by ladidah on Feb 8, 2024 12:32:08 GMT
Weren't the prices really high?
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Post by bigredapple on Feb 8, 2024 12:37:43 GMT
So at the same time that this is quietly axed, PTM announces another Heathers tour.
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Post by n1david on Feb 8, 2024 12:43:41 GMT
Weren't the prices really high? Up to nearly $250 for a 70-minute one person show. Truly ambitious.
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Post by erik24601 on Feb 8, 2024 13:40:36 GMT
Weren't the prices really high? Up to nearly $250 for a 70-minute one person show. Truly ambitious. Ambitious? Maybe. Stupid? Yes. Probably necessary to make the production financially viable, even though it's essentially an unknown show with an unknown performer in a large Broadway house? Absolutely.
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Post by ladidah on Feb 8, 2024 14:12:33 GMT
Way too much money, what a shame it priced itself out of existence.
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Post by erik24601 on Feb 8, 2024 14:20:13 GMT
Just a sadly misjudged first step in NYC. As mentioned, if this had done a few weeks in an off-Broadway venue first it MAY have picked up enough steam to warrant a transfer but I doubt it.
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Post by sph on Feb 8, 2024 14:24:59 GMT
Broadway was just such an odd next step for this show. It made no logical sense whatsoever. It's a very fringe-y show overall. It probably wouldn't have even made it to the West End if it hadn't been for the number of empty theatres looking for fillers post-covid.
Even an Off-Broadway run would have struggled. It would certainly have needed DAZZLING reviews from New York critics in order to sell.
Did it do any international comedy or fringe festivals in places like Australia or Canada? They would have been a better fit really.
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Post by ladidah on Feb 8, 2024 14:33:43 GMT
It's such an intimate show that has a crafty feel, it's made for fringe or off-broadway.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 8, 2024 18:09:31 GMT
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 8, 2024 18:12:02 GMT
Tickets no longer available for this on Telecharge who were the main provider so this is dead - really sad for Rob but Broadway was always going to be hard.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Feb 8, 2024 19:19:18 GMT
To echo what's been said - they'd be much better doing it off Broadway at a smaller venue for a limited run. The producers have shot themselves in the foot. Start small and then another extension. Can't say I'm surprised.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Feb 8, 2024 19:20:26 GMT
By all means, take the show to New York to try it out over there, but it's an Off-Broadway show. Maybe even Off-Off-Broadway. If well received, they could think about scaling upwards further down the line. That’s the thing. I don’t know the New York scene well but somewhere like new world stages would have seemed a better fit! To UK fans Rob would have still done New York but more manageable surely? Could totally have seen it at New World Stages!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 8, 2024 20:06:22 GMT
This show is never happening on Broadway. These producers are clearly absolutely clueless.
It’s devastating that Madge is caught up in their ineptitude
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Post by theatre2023 on Feb 8, 2024 20:11:44 GMT
Broadway world writes
“ The show will face an uphill battle to capitalize a second attempt at a Broadway run next year following widely acknowledged poor ticket sales by Broadway standards, and investors shaken by a run that never made it to first preview.
This is also the second project by producers Tom Smedes, Heather Shields, and Peter Stern to be postponed before opening in New York. The producing team also postponed their run of the Drag-Comedy musical Death Drop which had been slated to run at New World Stages last year. No further production details have been announced since the postponement. ”
The producers clearly are out of their depth.
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Post by sph on Feb 8, 2024 22:37:10 GMT
On the bright side, it's a very good, enjoyable, heartwarming show. It got lots of critical acclaim, great audience responses, TWO West End runs and gave Rob Madge enough profile that they were able to do things like panto at the Palladium etc. If I were them, I would be be happy and proud of the success that the show has had.
That being said, those on the business side of the venture have shown absolute ineptitude and a total lack of understanding of even the most basic economics in the theatre industry. I'd be angry.
A Broadway run will never happen. What investor would touch it now? If it didn't sell tickets now, it's hardly going to do so in six months or a year's time, unless Madge somehow becomes a big name in the US before then.
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Post by eggemann on Feb 8, 2024 23:24:08 GMT
Almost 17 weeks in a 900+ seat house? Have we all lost our minds?! Well we have our answer now. It seemed an odd move, a very British show with in a location that doesn’t know him. I honestly thought the next step up would have been a small uk tour around small theatres to reach his reasonable if still small uk fan base. I didn’t really get the leap to broadway.
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Post by Jon on Feb 9, 2024 0:47:18 GMT
If I were Rob, I'd cut ties with the producers after this shambles.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Feb 9, 2024 8:01:50 GMT
If I were Rob, I'd cut ties with the producers after this shambles. More than cut ties, I’d be getting legal advice. They’ve lost guaranteed work/earnings and presumably turned down other offers and roles (or at least potential auditions) due to the ineptitude of these producers. The sad thing is that we all knew this was a bad move. It’s a lovely show and deserves success, but it should always have had a smaller run out there first and scaled up if there was good word of mouth.
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Post by ladidah on Feb 9, 2024 8:16:25 GMT
I saw their video just now, very sad.
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Post by happysooz2 on Feb 9, 2024 17:09:58 GMT
If I were Rob, I'd cut ties with the producers after this shambles. More than cut ties, I’d be getting legal advice. They’ve lost guaranteed work/earnings and presumably turned down other offers and roles (or at least potential auditions) due to the ineptitude of these producers. The sad thing is that we all knew this was a bad move. It’s a lovely show and deserves success, but it should always have had a smaller run out there first and scaled up if there was good word of mouth. This! I’m so sad for Rob and they really need to be reviewing their legal options. Maybe this means we’ll get a reprise of the show in London though. (Yes, I will always find a silver lining.)
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Post by hannechalk on Feb 9, 2024 21:08:52 GMT
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Post by distantcousin on Feb 9, 2024 22:42:34 GMT
It always seemed like some massive vanity project (to get it to Broadway)
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Post by BVM on Feb 10, 2024 11:49:39 GMT
It always seemed like some massive vanity project (to get it to Broadway) Completely agree. Love Rob who's clearly a very sweet person. And while am sure this is a charming show (confess I never saw it) there is nothing I know about it that says it's the right thing for a main Broadway house. (And don't even get me started on the theatre world's obsession with "getting to Broadway." Many things (well, majority of things) aren't right for there and I just don't get why it's so often seen as the pinnacle measure of success!)
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Post by n1david on Feb 27, 2024 23:10:26 GMT
After all they've been through this is rather lovely.
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